Israel’s War With its Enemies Has Only Ever Been About the October 7 Massacre

By Kyle Orton (@KyleWOrton) on 7 October 2025

Read the article over at Substack.

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  1. pre-Boomer Marine brat's avatarpre-Boomer Marine brat

    It’s merely the latest. One of the earlier occurred during the reign of England’s Richard the Lionheart.

    Hamas was originally formed as the military wing of the 2nd generation of the Muslim Brotherhood. Research the Mohamed Morsi quote about nurturing and cultivating, in Islam’s children, of the hatred of Jews.

    “THE Lebanese political class” — If you meant it as a singular, you’ve gotta be kidding! Lebanon is more Balkanized than the Balkans. Has been for eons.

    What is the Tehran theocracy’s idea of a “Shi’a Crescent”? (From the Med to the Arabian Sea, specifically encircling the Sunni Arab Gulf.)

    Who was Rafic Hariri. What did he accomplish? Who actually killed him? (It wasn’t Assad’s Syrians.) Who ordered Hariri’s murder?

    What is the detailed history of Hamas’ “relationship” with the people of Gaza over the past 20 years? Was Hamas the only anti-Israel armed militia operating in Gaza 20 years ago? What jihadi unit of Fatah was there, and has it remained? After the election, why didn’t Hamas murder them like they killed members of Fatah’s political wing? What’s Hamas’ relationship with other Gazan groups, such as the Dugmush Clan?

    How has Hamas “controlled” the Gaza population? By use of what methods? How does Hamas “recruit” new members?

    During 2008/2009 Cast Lead, what hard evidence surfaced of Hamas’ locating military installations and rocket-launching tubes inside, on top of and beneath hospitals, mosques and schools? How much of that evidence was deliberately ignored by the Western press?

    The (“evilly-murdered by the Jews”) al-Dura boy’s father was arrested by Hamas for firing a gun into the air at a celebration. What was the celebration for, and how much exposure did the event get in the Western press? Who “created” the original incident, and which Western news agency was he employed by?

    Regarding your last paragraph, what was the Dawn.com website’s home page like on the morning of the 7th, this year? (Dawn is Pakistan’s major English-language daily, founded by the Quaid back in the early 1940s – on the surface, very Westernized, at times appearing to be somewhat “woke”.) What is the definition, and purpose, of “clickbait”?

    Where was George Galloway on October 7th, 2023, and what was he doing?

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    1. KyleWOrton's avatarKyleWOrton Post author

      I didn’t see the Pakistani/South Asian media so much, to be honest. My focus is more on the Arab world/Middle East, but I have a suspicion what DAWN would have been like … As for the “Lebanese political class”, point taken lol. Was trying to cut down on words in what was already an overlong introduction.

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      1. pre-Boomer Marine brat's avatarpre-Boomer Marine brat

        In fairness, Dawn Media Group management can reasonably say they’re just playing advertising-revenue clickbait with their audience. On the other hand, I seriously think not. Pakistan’s being hammered by “militancy”, but the dogma also has something of a grip on the nation’s cojones.

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        Over-simplified … Pakistan is a mixture of the Islamist/Salafist, and those who are not. (Three decades ago, there were bloodily vicious attacks running against the old-school Barelvi, who rejected the politicization of religion.)

        It’s not too much to say that radical-brand madrassas can be found up and down every street, and buy many of their students from indigent families. Research the Darul Uloom Haqqania, and the Jamia Uloom-ul-Islamia (commonly known as the ‘Binori Town Mosque’, which ran the attacks against the Barelvi.)

        Also, I wonder why the Darul Uloom Deoband mothership has been allowed to remain open and thriving in India, just 80 miles north-northeast of New Delhi.

        Islamism pretty much came into eastern Pakistan after Independence. Deobandism was already a South Asian spinoff of Wahhabism, but was a small and minor cult in the late Forties. It mushroomed with (1) the expansion of Saudi Arabia and Qutbism, and (2) the ideological fervor spawned by the Six Days War. Since the 1970s, an enormous amount of Saudi money has semi-covertly gone into Pakistan – guess who to.

        Jihadism has influenced certain elements in Pakistan’s military, but except for the reign of Zia ul-Haq, never the entirety of its command structure. Musharraf worked hard at kicking the radicals out. (While Pakistani Lt. Gen. Nadeem Taj commanded the Abbottabad military academy, he damn-near CERTAINLY knew that ObL was living 1,600 yards to the southwest of the academy’s parade ground.)

        The various Taliban wings are closely-allied siblings. All of them. Research the Quetta Shura.

        Northern Afghan Islam is largely Sufi and opposed to Islamism (research the Northern Alliance circa 2002, and the massacre which occurred when the Taliban re-took control of the country in 2021/22.)

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  2. pre-Boomer Marine brat's avatarpre-Boomer Marine brat

    Saturday afternoon, October 11th, in the USA …. I’ll probably lose money on this wager, but here goes ….

    The hostage handover will be something of a farce – not what the Western cognoscenti assumed it’d be – and The Donald will make a fool of himself by cursing those who should’ve earned him the Nobel Prize.

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